JAMES
For my deare Nephew the Prince of Orange.
liBTTRB MCCIin.
Le Conseiller^peneionaire Fagel au Prince <f Orange. A}* fairee de Groningue et d^Emden.
Doorluchtige Hooghgeboren Furst en Heer. Tsedert
* affeotioDâie.
[1677. Octobre.
het affgaen van mjne laetste, van den 19 deses, is ter vergaederinge van haer H. M., noch oock in de Gecomm. fiaeden, niets voorgevallen dat U Hoogheyts attentie meriteert. Wy hebben seer getalmt met de Heeren Gedeputeerden, soo van de stadt Groeningen aïs van de Omlanden. De gem. Heeren van de stadt hebben voorleden maendagh verclaert dat sy sodanigen last hadden ontfangen, op den voorsiagh [by] U Hoogheyt gedaen tôt een amnestie, dat sy geloofden dat wy daermede souden nemen contentement, indien de Heeren van de Omlanden gequalificeert waren om met haer daerover te knnnen handelen; en seyden ons niet duysterlyck dat sy de voors. amnestie souden aennemen; maer, dewyl de Heeren van de Omlanden haer niet gequalificeert vonden om daerop te antwoorden^ dat sy haer niet wyder konden expliceren. Wj hebben eyndelyck, naer veele debatten, verstaen dat haer Ed. M. souden verclaeren dat de Omlanden moesten hebben de securiteyt in het expédient vermeit, dat sy onder bénéficie van de securiteyt, daervan haer H. M. haer guarandeerden, wederom by den anderen souden vergaederen, ende de separate regeeringe cesseren, mits dat Rengers ten minste twee dage v66r de voorsz. byeenkomste losgelaten ende in veyligheit ontsiagen soude moeten wesen, ende dat partyen over vier weeken wederom alhier verschyuen souden, en dat die in gebreeke bleefi" die resolutie naer te koomen, de blâme op sich soude hebben vande onheylen die in de provintîe waeren. Haer H. M. hebben haer gister avont daermede geconformeert, en de Heeren van de Omlanden syn noch dienselven avont vertrocken. Men seyt dat de Heeren van de stadt daertegens een protest suUen overleveren, daerop men niet manqueren sal fondamentelyck te antwoorden. Ick vememe wel dat sy seer t'onvreden syn, maer men kan daerom niet laeten syn gemoet te quyten.
Hoe het met de question tusschen den Bisschop van Munster ende de stadt Embden sal afiTlopen, weet ick niet Ick vemeeme dat tusschen den Bisschop ende de
1677. Octobre.] . — 350 —
Farstinne van Oost-Vrîeslant is eene intime correspondentie. Sy hebben met den anderen tôt Stickhuysen * geaboucheert, alleen tusschen haer beyden, sonder datter yemant van haer bedienden présent is geweest, en, soo ick geinformeert ben, pretendeert de Furstinne de stadt te tracteren aïs rebel, ende de Bisschop als vyant, sullende met het scbeyden van de campagne meer militie derwaerts brengen ende by vriesent weder op de stadt, die dan seer onsterck is, iets ondernemen. Wij hebben met de Heeren [Cramprecht] ende de Lier oock daerover gesproocken, die aengenomen hebben den Bisschop van Manster te dehorteren, maar insisteerden dat wy dien aengaende oock souden willen spreecken met den Heere [Stricker], dewyl de Farsten van Brunswyck haer daermede seer bemoeyden , die dan op dat subject ail vry wat hooge tael syn voerende, soodat ick vreese dat dit vuyr, meest door den Hertoge van Hanover aengeblaesen, well licht iet qnaets veroorsaecken sal. Haer FF. DD. hebben syne C. H. van Brandenburch oock ail vry wat cavaillerement bejegent, hebbende last gegeven aen den commandant van haer troupen voor Stettyn , niet vyantlyck tegen die stadt te ageren, soo syn C. H. de Lubeecksche schepen by hem aengehaeit niet aenstonts relacheerde; en dien commandant soude oock daermede effectivelyck gesupersedeert hebben, indien syne C. H. de voorsz. schepen niet aenstonts gerelacheert hadde. De voorsz. relaxatie is dan well gevoight, maer laet in het gemoet van syne C. H. een neep, die ick gelooff dat soo heel rasch niet sal vergeten wesen.
Ick sal niet naerlaeten U Hoogheyt kennelyck te maecken wat hieromtrent verder voorvallen sal, en, sooveel my mogelyck is, traghten het werck buyten verwyderinge te houden. Ik hebbe de papieren, die U Hoogheyt van my heeft begeert, veerdigh gemaeckt en sal die morgen met den Heer van Ouwerkerck, die alsdan verreyst, senden, hoopende ende biddende dat Godt den Heere Al-
1 petite forteresse en Ost- Frise.
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maghtigh U Hoogheyts doorlughtighe persoon wîll conserveren en bewaeren, en U Hoogheyt in desselfs desseinen geven eene goede en geluckige uytkomste, en dat îck de eere mag hebben van U Hoogheyt haest in goede gesontheyt en met goede verrichtinge alhier wederom te sien; ende altoos te syn, Doorluchtîge Hooghgeboren Furst en Heer! U Hoogheyts
alderootmoedighste, geobligeertste dienaer
CASP. PAOEL.
Uage, desen 26 Octob. 1677.
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LETTRE MCCLin.
Ije Roi d^ Angleterre au Prince d^ Orange. Le Prince retenu en Angleterre par des vents contraires.
Wbitball, thorsday noone.
I beleeve * you finde now that what I tould* you of the wether at sea is true. I send this berer expresse to désire you to corne hether, where you will be as ready to take the first opportunity of a winde, as where you are; for, if you leave the yaughts at Gravesend, you may be downe in three howers, as soone as ever the winde changes, and I am now most confident that, till the winde cornes about bv the east and so to the south , vou wîll not hâve wether to put to sea. I hâve given order to the barges to go this night tide to Gravesend, so as you may be up heere to morrow, if the winde does not change in the meane time, which I do not beleeve * it will. If you will but aske the captaines opinions, you will finde them of my minde, and so, my deare Nephew, I am entîerly yours
* belieye. ' told.
1677. Vovenibre.] — 352 —
liETTRE MCCMV.
Le fhic et York au Prince éC Orange. Même gvget.
LondoD, November 22.
I am sorrj to heare of your having had sach conti winds and sach bad weather as bave obiiged you to pot into Sheernesse. I wish you had corne straight hether, for I feare the wind is sett in N. E. and will contioa* so till the fall moone, which will not be till wensday nighty so that I hope you will follow bis M. ad vice and corne hether to expect the change of wind hère, rather then at Sheernesse, and leaving the yachts at Gravsend and the goods on board. You will be every whit as ready to take the first oportunity of the wind, hère as there; beside that it would be a great satisfaction to me, and to ail hère, to bave you with us as long as you stay in this country. You see I write to you without ceremony ; pray do so to me, and be assured I shall always be as kind to you as you can expect.
JAli£8.
For my Sonne, the Prince of Oranofe.
liETTRE 1ICCE.T.
Le Roi ctAngl^erre au Prince cP Or ange. Même njeL
Whithall friday nîght I receaved your letter by Wroth this evening, by which I perceave you are now at Canterbury. The reason that made me propose your comming hether againe was when I did beleeve you intended to stay at Sheerenesse, till the winde was faire, and in that casse' my proposition was not unreasonable ; but, now that you are advanced so farr and résolve to embarke at Margatt, I thinke yen will do well not to come hether, for it will be a troublesome journy this ill wether and, if the winde shoold
* continue. ' case.
Ji
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bhange, as you are comniing hether, you may chance to
■Dose a good passage, and I hope you beleeve my kind-
tesse to you is upon a better fondation then to neede
Iky sach compliment. Pray, remember me very kindly
flhyour wife and be assnred that I am as kinde to you
bo4^ as you can désire.
y liETTRE MCCIiTI.
Lord J^anby^ au Prince et Orange, Le Duc (F York trhê^ anih0 contre la France.
London, 28 Nov. 1677.
I recVyed the honour of your Highnesses letter about 3 hoores ag^ et spoke imediately to the King according to your coip-ands. His M. told mee hee would write to your Highnesses himselfe, and I found him onlyconcernd for your i^wne conveniency, in what hee had writt conceming y-<ir retume to London and should leave itt intirely to what you should think best. — When I had writt thas far, I was sent for to the King, who toid mee that mylady Frances Villers was dead and that the Duke had spoke to him for one in her place, who hee could not refuse, which was mylady Henrietta Hyde, but that hee was a litle embarassed whither your Highnesse might not hâve some objection to her upon that score which made you except against her husbands being embassador in Holland; although hee thought there was a great difference betwixt the unckle and the wifo of an unckle, especially since , att your désire , hee was resolved not to imploy him in Holland, and hee could easely refuse him that imployment, without giveing the Duke any reason why hee did so, but hee could not refuse the Dukes request for mylady, without giveing that reason which hee knew your Highnesse would not hâve the Duke to think. Hee the)re fore comanded mee to acquainte your High-
1 Thomas Osborne, comte de Danby, grund- trésorier , de 167H à 1678. Y. 28
1677. Novembre] — 354 —
nesse with itt, and that hee does not think îtt a matl
worth the takeing any notice of, since the effect wot
bee the putting of some sort of disoblîgation upon the Dul
Wee hâve yett no newes of mylord Feversham , me
then his being att S^ Germaines on sonday and the
believes hee wil bee hère on sonday next In the nK
time I know M' Barillon has had a carrier, who arr'
hère yesterday att two a clock^ and hee said to one ^
hee feared the answer to mylord Feversham would«*
bee so good as wee expected. I gave an accoant c^^
to the King and Dake this mommg , as also of an JbIU-
gence I hâve of theire intention to block YpresputiD
the season would gîve leave to invest îtt doser, uid (to
my great admiration) the Duke said very brisLy that,
in case they do not agrée to the propositioiis sent by
mylord Feversham , the King onght to lett ^e Eing of
France know that, unlesse hee would forbear^ny fartber
conquests in Flanders , hee could not hinder Et^land from
coming into the war, and I said I hoped they^would give
mee leave to renew that motion, if wee should receive
an ill or dilatory answer from France. I am extreame
sorry the Kings businesse will not permitt my attendance
on your Highnesse att Canterbury, and the môre becaose
I was so unfortunate as not to kisse your Uighnesses
hands att your departure from hence; but I hope I am
so happy in your Highnesses beleife * of my zeale to your
service that I need inake no apologies for ceremony, there
being no body alive with greater passion and respect your
Highnesses most faithftill and obedient servant.
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LETTRE MCCLTD.
Le Duc cCYork au Prince cP Orange. Compliments,
Jjonden, November 33.
I receved this afternone yours by M' Wroth, by the
' belief .
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hîch I find you were then a going for Canterbury and, nce you did not corne back hether, I am glad you ose that place to ly at, in expectation of a fair wind, being the convenients in many respects. I wish very much r your sake the wind would change , but I see no liklyood of it; however ît is to far for you to corne hether aud to give yourself that trouble, in so ill a season as this is, and beside, by doing ît, you might lose the oportunity of the first wind, which you see by experiance aught not to be lost at this tyme of yeare. — As I had writen this, I receved yours of yesterday, which I had no soner, by reason of my secretary having been in the towne ail day, and hâve no more to say upon it; only that I am Tery sorry I am not like to hâve the satisfaction of seing you for all«; the wind may , I feare , keep you some days where you are. Mylord Ossory, that give you this, will tell you ail the newse we hâve hère, which is not much.
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Le Duc (F York au Prince d Orange. Il espère qu'il aura eu une heureuse traversée.
London, November 30.
I was very glad to find, by yours of wensday morning from Margate, that you were then going on board the yachts, with a faire wind, and, if it hâve been the same at sea as it has hère, I make no doubt that you landed yesterday; I am sure I wish it, for, beside that ît is so very necessary for you to be there, ît has blowen very hard ail this night. I long very much to heare of your being landed, and, pray, beleve you shall always find me as kind to you as you can expect. — I had forgott to tell you that Lord Feversham was to be yesterday at Calais, so that we looke for him hère this day or to morrow.
1677. nombre] — 356 —
IjEVTWLE IHCCMX.
Le Roi d'Angleterre au Prince d! Orange. Il n'est pas satiê' fait de la réponse du Roi de France à Lord Feversham.
Whithall, 4 December 1677.
I was very much in paine, till I heard by the jaughts
that you were safely landed ; for, if you had not taken
just then the time to land at Terhay * , the foule wether
would hâve forced you back for Ëngland. Mylord
Feversham is returned, but, as I thought, not with
such an answer as I could wish, therfore I wiil dispatch
M' Montagne to morrow, with more pressing instances,
and to hâve a positive answere, upon which I may take
my measures; I hâve directed M^ Hide to speake to
you more at large upon this matter, so as I shall say
no more upon it , only to désire that I may hâve an answer
as soone as you can, which is ail I can say to you now,
haveing a great deale of businesse upon my hands; only
I will omitt no oportunity of assuring you that I am, and
ever will be, kindly yours.
LETTRi: MCCLX.
Le Duc dYork au Prince d Orange. Départ de M. Mort'tagu pour la France.
London, December 4.
I receved but yesterday yours from Honslardike, but on saturday, by three in the afternone, had an account from one of the cap. * of the yachts of your having landed on thursday none at Terhey , which I was very glad to heare, because that very same night it began to blow very hard and has continud doing so ever since. I was also very glad you had so good a passage and that jon landed so as you did , for otherwise you would hâve been
^ Ter Ueîde. * captaios.
[1677. U^cmbre.
put to it to hâve known what to do , bv reason of the rivers being full of ice , and I beleve now that Odike * will be convinced that a yacht is better for thèse seas then a man of war; for those that went with you of ours were net corne back yesterday to the Downs. Lord Feversham is now corne back, and as yett the propositions he carried will not be harkned lo; to morrow His Maj. sends away M' Montegu, to presse the King of France againe, and to hâve a positive and speedy answer. I wîsh he may agrée , bat I feare not ; for ail , the parlement is to meet the 15 of next month, but of ail thèse affiiirs vou will recive ' a large account from other hands , so that I shall say no more of them « nor of any thing els at this tyme , but only to assure you that I am yours.
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liETTRE IHCCLJCI.
Lord Danby au Prince d Orange, Le Roi est dans des dis^ positions très'énergiques à P égard de la France.
LondoD, 4 Decemb. 1677.
I bave a multitude of acknowlegdments to make to your Highnesse for your 'severall letters and honours in them, which your H* bas been pleased to bestow upon mee since your leaveing this place , and as I bave received great satisfaction from them ail, so itt bas not been the least that, by your last from Honslaerdyck , I bave heard the good newes of both your Highnesses safe arrivai in Holland. Wee had received the news of S* Gillin being beseiged * , before your letter came , and I hope with no ill effect, for itt did so alarme us hère (I meane the King and Duke themselves, as well as others) that, together with the account wee bave received from France by mylord Feversham , itt bas made us come up to more brisk councills then I dare bee confident your H' could expect from us, and of which you would hâve had an ac-
* GuUlaame de Nassau, Seigneur d'Odgk. * recdve. * bedeged.
1677. Déccmbre^J — 358 —
count by the sending of Sîr W" Temple, but that wee stay him, in expectation of haveing more to send him with, when wee hâve heard once more from France by M^ Montagu, who is to départ hence on thnrsday morning, with orders to presse for a speedy resolution of theire mind. The summe oftheanswer to mylord Feversham (who has acquitted himselfe very well there) bas been, that the King of France did not expect the King of England would hâve thought such propositions reasonable, and that hee should thinke itt as reasonable to désire of him that hee should cutt ofF his legs and then bid him walke. That, to shew his intentions are not to take ail Flanders, hee would bee willing to consent to a truce, for ail the Spanish and Holland townes betwixt the Meuse and the sea, as was in the yeare 1668, and that truce to bee for a yeare or what fiirther convenient time the King should thinke fitt What answer His Maj. has retumd to this. M' Hyde is directed to communicate to your H" att large , so that I will not trouble you with the répétition of itt; butt you may bee fully assured his Ma*'® will not now go lesse then the seaven townes mentioned to your H', and will, as much as your selfe, expect that, if S' Gillain or any other place shall bee taken, since the sending of mylord Feversham into France, they bee restored, over and above the townes already demanded; and your H' may jndge how much our temper is altered, when the principall end of this expresse is to tell you that the King will joyne with Holland to oblige France to accept the proposalls sent by mylord Feversham, in case Holland will joyne with him to oblige Spaine to the same, in case they shall refuse itt; and the King will rely upon your Highnesses single engagement for this, without saying any thingto the States of itt Your Highnesse will easîly remember how far the King was from coming up to this, when you made severall essaies to hâve gained itt from him, 80 that your H* will gire mee leave to say the fault will
— 359 — [1677. Décembre.
now lie on your side of the water, if jon hâve not, either ihe peace upon the tearmes proposed, or ns as deeply ingaged * in the war as yourselves and , if I may offer an ad vise (thoagh itt may bee too early) I thinke itt were not amisse to consider on your parts, as wee shall bee thinking on ours, in what manner the carriyng on of the war might bee best concerted betwixt England and Holland, in case of a rupture with France, because the project of itt will do no harme, though itt should never bee executed. I beleeve your H* bas as litle* expected the short adjournment of the Parliament, which proceeds from the same cause, and that which I beleeve y ou lesse expect then ail the rest, and which I asure your H" the truth of, is that the Duke goes as chearefuUy into thèse councills as the King. In short, I hâve so great confidence in our stedinesse to thèse resolutions that I can feare nothing but a Spanish obstinacy to make u& recolle , which I hope your H* will take care to prevent, and I am comanded by His Ma^* privately to tell your H' that hee wishes you could hasten the recall of the Marquis de Burgomaine, by speeding the Marquis de Fnentes hitther, whom wee bave expected a good while , and who I hope there will bee care taken to instruct so as to transact in a more satisfactory manner with his Ma^'® then this bas done, and which will certainelv bee more usefull to the interests of Spaine. I am, with ail possible duty and zeale, your Highnesses most truly obedient servant
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liETTRK HCCLXII.
Sir William Temple au Prince et Orange. Le Duc d^York aussi veut résister à la France.
London, December 8 1677.
May it pleas your Highnesse. I should by last post bave rejoyced with your Highness upon the news of your
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1677. DAîembrc.] — 360 —
happj arrivai and upon the resolutions that hâve beene taken heere since yon wente, in those afiairs wherein your H' is so deeply concernd^ but that mylord treasarers letter to you upon this subject was so long and so particular that nothing could bee added to it, for your H' information or satisfaction ^ and therefore I resolved not to trouble yon with the same things by that post, and from so much a worse hande. I suppose Mylord amb. Hide will hâve showed your H' his instructions and M' secretarys letter upon that occasion, which, agreeing so fully wîth what mylord treasurer writt, must hâve left you in no doubt of those resolutions beeing firmely taken heere, and yett I thought your H* would not bee displeased to know from mee that I am of opinion they are so, and, which is more, that the Duke will goe up to as great a heigth in them as any man, in case France gives him the occasion by their answer to what M^ Mountague goes away with to say, and that His H' will absolutely conclude from thence what their good intentions either are or hâve beene to the King. Though I bave this second time excused myself from attending upon your H', and thereby devolved His Majestys commands upon Mr Hide once more, yet I hope your H* will pardon mee, since I bave onely reserved myself for the next occasion, which I expect will bee of more moment y and within a very little time. For the présent I onely désire your H* will please to give your answer to what M' Hide carrys you, in such manner as may bee fully to his Maj« satisfaction, and, if you should scruple the doing it to any other hande, that you would at least doe it in a private letter to His Maj* owne , with a désire it may goe no ftirther then those hands by which ail your H* concernes hâve hitherto been transacted, which hâve been no more in thees last affairs then in those of the match. I hope your Highnesse will thinke fitt to write particularly to the Duke , as well as to the King , in acknoledgment and applause of thees late resolutions, and Mylord
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Treasurer will deserve it too by the great parte he has had in them. I aske jour H' pardon for the length and confidence of this letter and jour justice in beleeving raee ever, what I shall ever bee , with a perfect dévotion and trath^ Sir, your Highnesses
most faitbfull and most obedient humble servant,
